Rachel Aldred, Professor of Transport at the University of Westminster and Director of the Active Travel Academy, talks to Bike Talk cohost Andrea Learned about who we plan for, planning not for cycling as it is but how it will be, how people respond to change, getting more people on bikes, decision makers on bikes, changing the narrative of cycling, overcoming barriers to getting funding for active travel, Low Traffic Neighborhoods as a term and in practice, cycle logistics and vans versus cargo bikes, bike infrastructure improvements, helping the average person get into cycling, Active Travel Academy, the language of crashes, and the connection between climate emergency and road change.